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:* [https://www.youtube.com/ 3-3] in ~XXs
 
:* [https://www.youtube.com/ 3-3] in ~XXs
 
:* [https://www.youtube.com/ 3-4] in ~XXs (You lose the Null Egg here... or maybe in 3-5?)
 
:* [https://www.youtube.com/ 3-4] in ~XXs (You lose the Null Egg here... or maybe in 3-5?)
:* '''Combined time:''' ~XXXXs
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:* '''===> Combined time:''' ~XXXXs
 
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:* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I19lpo6bo0w 3-3] in ~165s
 
:* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I19lpo6bo0w 3-3] in ~165s
 
:* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4zoZshgND8 3-4] in ~220s
 
:* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4zoZshgND8 3-4] in ~220s
:* '''Combined time:''' ~1431s (23m51s)
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:* '''===> Combined time:''' ~1431s (23m51s)
 
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:* Null Egg Set Up in ~90s
 
:* Null Egg Set Up in ~90s
 
:* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHbQKuZNxMY 4-4] in ~71s '''(You lose the Null Egg here)'''
 
:* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHbQKuZNxMY 4-4] in ~71s '''(You lose the Null Egg here)'''
:* '''Combined time:''' ~161s (2m41s)
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:* '''===> Combined time:''' ~161s (2m41s)
 
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==Without Null Egg==
 
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=== Time Save ===
 
=== Time Save ===
---> ~94s (1m34s)
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:* Null Egg Set Up in ~90s
 
:* Null Egg Set Up in ~90s
 
:* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zp8zCMxmfCE 5-8] in ~72s '''(You lose the Null Egg here)'''
 
:* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zp8zCMxmfCE 5-8] in ~72s '''(You lose the Null Egg here)'''
:* '''Combined time:''' ~162s (2m42s)
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==Without Null Egg==
 
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=== Time Save ===
 
=== Time Save ===
---> ~11s
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'''NOT WORTH IT!''' (since 3-6 Null Egg is hard)
 
'''NOT WORTH IT!''' (since 3-6 Null Egg is hard)
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:* Null Egg Set Up in ~90s
 
:* Null Egg Set Up in ~90s
 
:* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6ozpY-LF60 6-4] in ~72s '''(You lose the Null Egg here)'''
 
:* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6ozpY-LF60 6-4] in ~72s '''(You lose the Null Egg here)'''
:* '''Combined time:''' ~162s (2m42s)
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=== Time Save ===
 
=== Time Save ===
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:* Null Egg Set Up in ~90s
 
:* Null Egg Set Up in ~90s
:* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shyJGwvopmU 6-6] in ~95s [5 or 6 stars + 2 red coins before Warp]
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:* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shyJGwvopmU 6-6] in ~95s
:* [https://www.youtube.com/ 6-7] in ~XXs
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:* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-lEbQH-g9A 6-7] in ~136s
:* [https://www.youtube.com/ 6-8] in ~XXs
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:* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfTVZrKRaHU 6-8] in ~102s
:* [https://www.youtube.com/ 6-E] in ~XXs
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:* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_NOcwVqz4I 6-E] in ~96s'''*'''
:* [https://www.youtube.com/ 4-E] in ~XXs
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:* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKjyYqnGLUw 4-E] in ~91s
:* [https://www.youtube.com/ 5-E] in ~XXs '''(You lose the Null Egg here)'''
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:* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kvYoN0F-Ro 5-E] in ~71s '''(You lose the Null Egg here)'''
:* '''Combined time:''' ~XXXs
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; '''*'''Slightly slower [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wxW7LjfaF0 6-E (~98s)] but maybe more consistent since no tulip...
 
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:* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aoQrAUPVds 4-E] in ~124s
 
:* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aoQrAUPVds 4-E] in ~124s
 
:* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rw2s6g0LTQ8 5-E] in ~113s  
 
:* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rw2s6g0LTQ8 5-E] in ~113s  
:* '''Combined time:''' ~950s
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=== Time Save ===
 
=== Time Save ===
---> ~XXXs
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'''--->''' ~359s (5m59s)

Revision as of 00:20, 17 January 2018


WORK IN PROGRESS
(Written by andy_kuma)


Introduction

So for a while now I have thought about making 100% No Restriction a thing. What this means for 100% in particular are these 2 "new" things:

  • Using 1-1 Warps
  • Using Null Eggs that we fill with Screen Exit Sprites to do more 1-1 Warps

In the latter case this means doing a specific Null Egg Set Up in either 2-2 and then playing 1-3 OR playing 3-6 to get the right Null Egg.
So far I have completed some of the general routing but still need to time it properly, which I will do here over time.
The way I will do this is by creating videos of 'optimized' playing the Null Egged Levels and then comparing the time to the ILs and doing some math to get a rough idea on how much it can save.


Resources

These 3 videos are the initial resources I created a long time ago. They won't be super relevant since more updated stuff will be put together, but I want to list them anyway.

The idea/route of playing 2-2 to 3-4 with Null Egg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_6uin0xRrE
Actually timing the whole thing (a good run) of 2-2 to 3-4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-QeuKYNLDk
3-6 Null Egg Idea for 4-4, 6-4 and 6-8 (INCOMPLETE)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHkVhsFkhe4


Pastebin with some more Info: https://pastebin.com/KCDifbqs (Note: This was before I knew about the 3-6 Null Egg so the second half can be considered outdated... I also haven't really looked to much into the ideas of the 2nd potential Null Egg Route mentioned in there)


Warps

I have already tried using all the 'regular' Warps (that I knew about at the time) in 100% to see which ones are faster and by how much.
The following table is a comparison (+ video) of the time of the warped ILs VS. the current regular IL World Records... (as of 15.01.2018)
For the combined time I will list 4 different versions for the following reasons:

  • Case 1 - Only 1-4 & 2-1: In this case 2-4, 2-5 & 5-4 will have faster routes that involve using the Null Egg.
  • Case 2 - Only 1-4, 2-1 & 5-4: There is good chance that only this will be needed, when there is a Null Egg Usage for 2-2 to 3-4, in which case the 2-4 & 2-5 Warps times will be irrelevant to the total time save from regular 1-1 Warps.
  • Case 3 - All Except 5-4: Similar to the first one but in case the 2-2 to 3-4 Null Egg Route isn't faster and there is a use for Null Egg in 5-4.
  • All Levels: In case none of the Null Egg Routes are faster.


With Warps

  • 1-4 in ~96s
  • 2-1 in ~77s
  • 2-4 in ~97s
  • 2-5 in ~96s
  • 5-4 in ~97s
  • Combined time (Case 1): ~173s
  • Combined time (Case 2): ~270s
  • Combined time (Case 3): ~366s
  • Combined time (All levels): ~463s

Without Warps

  • 1-4 in ~125s
  • 2-1 in ~125s
  • 2-4 in ~158s
  • 2-5 in ~104s
  • 5-4 in ~248s
  • Combined time (Case 1): ~250s
  • Combined time (Case 2): ~498s
  • Combined time (Case 3): ~512s
  • Combined time (All levels): ~760s

Time saved

  • Case 1 (1-4 & 2-1): Saves ~77s (~1m07s)
  • Case 2 (1-4, 2-1 & 5-4): Saves ~228s (~3m48s)
  • Case 3 (1-4, 2-1, 2-4 & 2-5): Saves ~146s (~2m26s)
  • All levels: Saves ~297s (~4m57s)



Null Egg Stuff

So the Warp Stuff is rather straight-forward but the Null Egg Stuff however... not so much...

I am still thinking about the best way of doing it but I figured that I should just start *somewhere* and figure it out on the way, or else I might never really get started on this.

So this is how I will do it:
Similar to the Warps Table I will create tables for potential Null Egg Routes and then just sum up the ILs of regular play / Warps play (For the 1-1 Warped levels) and compare them to 'optimized' Level play using the Null Egg Warps. In that case I will also have to add 2-2/1-3 and 3-6 + time from menuing/score screen.


Note: The 3-6 play will be Any% since it is only replayed for the sole purpose getting a new Null Egg with the Screen Exit Sprite and not to 100% the level. Whereas with 2-2 a 100% version is played, as it's the first time entering the level anyway, and getting the Null Egg only adds a small amount of time.


CURRENTLY MOST NULL EGG RELATED VIDEOS (+TIMING) ARE STILL MISSING

THEY WILL BE ADDED OVER TIME

Levels with videos so far:

3-6 | 4-4 | 5-8 | 6-4 | 6-6


3-6 getting the Null Egg in ~62s + ~28s from menuing/score screen etc. (not in this video)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pi2r0PFsGFg

Note: I finished the level with a regular egg on the front, but for levels like 4-4, 5-8 or 6-4 --where you immediately want to throw & spit the null egg-- there is no need to carry an additional egg at the front into the level, so it could probably be used somewhere in 3-6, just thrown away or simply shuffled on the last screen before the goal ring. For all the videos here I shuffled the egg, so that I would have 2 eggs to use after throwing & spitting the Null Egg and doing the 1-1 Warp. Keep that in mind.

(Btw. if you keep holding right at the beginning of the last screen you will trigger a 1-1 Warp, that's why you have to jump over the Screen Exit Sprite)


2-2 to 3-4 Null Egg Route

With Null Egg

Without Null Egg

  • 2-2 in ~130s
  • 2-3 in ~89s
  • 2-4 (1-1 Warped) in ~97s
  • 2-5 (1-1 Warped) in ~96s
  • 2-6 in ~94s
  • 2-7 in ~140s
  • 2-8 in ~240s
  • 3-1 in ~100s
  • 3-2 in ~60s
  • 3-3 in ~165s
  • 3-4 in ~220s
  • ===> Combined time: ~1431s (23m51s)


4-4 Null Egg route

With Null Egg

  • Null Egg Set Up in ~90s
  • 4-4 in ~71s (You lose the Null Egg here)
  • ===> Combined time: ~161s (2m41s)

Without Null Egg

  • 4-4 in ~255s (4m15s)

Time Save

---> ~94s (1m34s)


5-8 Null Egg route

With Null Egg

  • Null Egg Set Up in ~90s
  • 5-8 in ~72s (You lose the Null Egg here)
  • ===> Combined time: ~162s (2m42s)

Without Null Egg

  • 5-8 in ~173s (2m53s)

Time Save

---> ~11s

NOT WORTH IT! (since 3-6 Null Egg is hard)


6-4 Null Egg route

With Null Egg

  • Null Egg Set Up in ~90s
  • 6-4 in ~72s (You lose the Null Egg here)
  • ===> Combined time: ~162s (2m42s)

Without Null Egg

  • 6-4 in ~218s (3m38s)

Time Save

---> ~56s


6-6 to 5-E Null Egg route

With Null Egg

  • Null Egg Set Up in ~90s
  • 6-6 in ~95s
  • 6-7 in ~136s
  • 6-8 in ~102s
  • 6-E in ~96s*
  • 4-E in ~91s
  • 5-E in ~71s (You lose the Null Egg here)
  • ===> Combined time: ~591s


*Slightly slower 6-E (~98s) but maybe more consistent since no tulip...

Without Null Egg

  • 6-6 in ~116s
  • 6-7 in ~182s
  • 6-8 in ~285s
  • 6-E in ~130s
  • 4-E in ~124s
  • 5-E in ~113s
  • ===> Combined time: ~950s

Time Save

---> ~359s (5m59s)