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review/revise AI condensed beginner guide:

This guide is for new runners, especially people new to speedrunning.

Choosing a Category

Start with Any% Warpless if you are unsure what to run. It teaches the basics, has the most resources, and has the most active runners.

A good first goal is sub-2 hours.

If you want to run 100%, it is best to learn Warpless first and aim for around sub-1:50. This builds comfort with movement, tonguing, egg-making, and routing. Starting with 100% is possible, but harder.

Obscure categories have fewer guides and fewer people to help.

Join the Yoshi Discord to ask questions, learn strategies, and talk with other runners.

Learning the Game

Do not rely only on the wiki. Some pages are outdated.

The best way to learn is by combining PB videos, wiki info, IL WRs, and Discord advice.

Kolthor’s PB is a good beginner reference because the strategies are still approachable. IL WRs are useful too, but some strategies are too risky for full runs.

If a trick is not working, use a slower backup and return to it later. Watch different runners, especially around the 1:50 range, since they often use safer strategies than top runners. Comparing routes can help you find methods that fit your skill level.

Improving

Focus on movement first. Tricks save time, but clean movement matters more.

Avoid deaths and hits. Early on, most time loss comes from dying, getting hit, or losing Baby Mario. Staying alive will improve your times quickly.

Do not obsess over final time. Set small goals each run, like finishing cleaner levels or landing specific tricks.

Finish runs instead of constantly resetting. The game is long, and you need practice in later worlds too. Stamina matters.

Use fewer flutters over time. They are safe, but slow. Learn clean movement instead of relying on extra flutters.

Your main goals:

Move cleanly. Stay alive. Finish runs.

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• should have a section about this backup save strat (3-2): https://www.twitch.tv/leonisrta/clip/PlacidEndearingHerdDansGame-gx49h34eBKu_eSS9
• fast 1-5 goal entry
• flutter techniques/handcams https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZT2znvYMhS8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAvZv4CQAkM https://www.twitch.tv/suus_/clip/FantasticAlluringSpaghettiDAESuppy-MOCpEt2TM1O4MD_W
• leonis baxter

clean up

https://yoshi.science/index.php/Fluttering#Flutter_Storage. add this https://www.twitch.tv/leonisrta/clip/SuccessfulBreakableJamBudBlast-2iqgVG-3VZKpHmWl

rewrite

https://yoshi.science/index.php/Controls#Any%_time_save

update

https://yoshi.science/index.php/DLC

under construction

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Generic problems

• Tutorial videos for advanced tricks like gatehacks, chicken baxter etc.
• re-add if/when it's public again Warps (1-1 to 2-8) (2014) Warps (Old)
• Full-game warpless tutorials. 1 video per level with commentary would be a good format. Include alternate strats, easier strats and optimal strats. Explain egg counts.
  
• Updated tutorial for all the 1-1 warps. (1 long video or short videos covering each warp individually)
• Full-game 100% tutorials.
• 5-4 skip tutorial. Make sure to mention half skip.
• Merge TAS guide and TAS tricks together
• Enemy list
• SNES vs GBA differences. (Not super important)
• Level pages. Update videos if needed. Included bullet point lists with text breakdowns. 1-1 is a good example but still needs some work. Make gifs to go along with the text breakdowns. 1-1 100% is a good example but again, still needs work.
• Visual aesthetics for all pages so they're not just plain white. Maybe we could use backgrounds from the game in a similar way to how the leaderboards are done http://www.speedrun.com/yi

Category Stuff

Universal Bans

Allowed Emulators: Snes9x 1.51, 1.53 - 1.56. SD2SNES, Bizhawk/Higan/BSNES, Snes9x 1.43, Snes9x 1.57+, ZSNES etc. are banned due to inaccurate Super FX 2 chip emulation that results in fewer lag frames than the official console release. If you have reason to believe an emulator update has changed the SFX2 emulation to an acceptable level, contact a moderator on Discord or Twitter, or post about it on the leaderboard rules thread. ([1] is a spreadsheet with emulator and SD2SNES timings so you can see exactly how they compare to console). No use of controller functions that are not possible on an unmodified stock controller (e.g. macros, left+right, turbo). Turbo however, is still allowed in the Japanese community. No use of outside tools (e.g. RAM watch, Lua script). No outside modification of game code. This includes things like cheat devices (e.g. Game Genie, crooked cartridges, and modified ROMs).

Submission Notes

All submissions that would be a Top 15 time require full video proof in perpetuity. Full video means ONE segment, with full audible game audio. Two split Twitch VoDs or a VoD with partially muted audio is NOT a full video. If you have audio or recording issues, please ask on the leaderboard rules thread or in the Discord server. Do NOT wait until a Top 15 PB to bring up an issue. No exceptions will be granted for status or circumstance, the rules apply to everyone, equally. It is highly recommended, but not required, that you locally record your runs if you want to submit to the leaderboard, in case your stream goes down for any reason. OBS can stream and record the same encode. If you have any questions or issues, post on the leaderboard rules thread or ask in the Discord server. We care about new runners and we will help you.

Any%

Any% refers to completing the game as quickly as possible, without regard for overall completion percentage. These categories skip significant portions of the game using major glitches. While these categories are relatively short, they are highly technical and involve minimal standard gameplay.

Credits Warp

Description: The fastest category in the game. This run uses the Tongue Glitch to trigger the credits through arbitrary code execution, bypassing the need to defeat Bowser to end the game.

Leaderboard: https://www.speedrun.com/yi?h=Any-credits-warp-snes&x=z27qx5k0-jlz0r082.jq6v2ro1-yn2jx2e8.gq7pnvdq

Timing: Start: On new file select. End: When the screen completely fades to black (before the credits start).

This category has no restrictions other than the universal bans.

Useful Pages: Tongue Glitch Arbitrary Code Execution

Beat Bowser

Description: This run beats the game as fast as possible under the constraint that Bowser must be defeated to reach the game's credits. Arbitrary code execution is allowed, but cannot be used to warp to the credits.

Leaderboard: https://www.speedrun.com/yi?h=Any-beat-bowser-snes&x=z27qx5k0-jlz0r082.jqz7g9gl-yn2jx2e8.gq7pnvdq;

Timing: Start: On new file select. End: On the first frame of the Bowser explosion.

Bans: Credits Warp

Useful Pages: Tongue Glitch Arbitrary Code Execution

No ACE

Description: This category beats the game as quickly as possible without the use of arbitrary code execution. The null egg glitch is used to corrupt your save data, allowing you to unlock 6-8 from world 2.

Leaderboard: https://www.speedrun.com/yi?h=Any-no-ace-snes&x=z27qx5k0-jlz0r082.klr3ydwl-yn2jx2e8.gq7pnvdq

Timing: Start: On new file select. End: On the first frame of the Bowser explosion.

Bans: Arbitrary Code Execution

Useful Pages: 1-1 Warps Null Egg Save File Corruption

All Main Stages

All Main Stages (AMS) categories differ from Any% categories in that they require that each main stage of the game be completed. `Main stages' refers to all stages in the game except for the Extra stages.

Null Egg

(Known colloquially as Magical Journey) Description: The fastest run in the game that beats every main stage. This run makes heavy use of the null egg glitch, acquired in 2-2, to significantly shorten stages 2-3 through 6-8.

Leaderboard: https://www.speedrun.com/yi?h=Warpless-magical-journey-snes&x=zd37zv2n-onvxxw58.1gn5jvnl-yn2jx2e8.gq7pnvdq

Timing: Start: On new file select. End: On the first frame of the Bowser explosion.

Bans: Save File Corruption Arbitrary Code Execution

Useful Pages: 1-1 Warps Null Egg

No Null Egg
(Formerly known as Warps) Description: This run beats every main stage in the game without the use of the null egg glitch. It makes significant use of 1-1 Warps, many of which are set up using the Tongue Glitch to beat individual stages as quickly as possible. It also allows resetting the console during the run to skip the cutscene at the end of each world. The run was the original Any% category of the game before the Null Egg Glitch and credits warp were discovered.
Leaderboard: https://www.speedrun.com/yi?h=Warpless-no-null-egg-snes&x=zd37zv2n-onvxxw58.qke5rjyq-yn2jx2e8.gq7pnvdq;
Timing: Start: On new file select. End: On the first frame of the Bowser explosion.
Bans: Null Egg Arbitrary Code Execution
Useful Pages: 1-1 Warps Tongue Glitch

No Major Glitches

(Formerly known as Warpless) Description: The main category of the Yoshi speedrunning community. This run bans all major glitches and thus most resembles standard gameplay. In the past, this was the main category for just the Japanese community, as they did not want to use 1-1 Warps, however, the rest of the world did and thus, the Any% Warps category was created. The Japanese also timed their runs to the last input, whereas the rest of the world timed up until the Bowser explosion. This is where the difference in timing methods between this category and Any% Warps came from.

Leaderboard: https://www.speedrun.com/yi?h=Warpless-snes&x=zd37zv2n-yn2jx2e8.gq7pnvdq

Timing: Start: On new file select. End: On the last input when the last text box is advanced after Bowser is defeated. Note: The US version of the game has 2 text boxes here, while the Japanese version only has 1.

Bans: Resetting 1-1 Warps Tongue Glitch Null Egg Arbitrary Code Execution

Useful Page: Fast strat list

100%

100%

Description: The 100% category of the game. You must finish each level with 30 stars, 20 red coins and 5 flowers. Additionally, this run features the Extra level in each world, which normally does not appear in the Any% categories. 100% makes use of strategies from Any% Warpless, along with many egg shots and clever star routes to complete levels quicker. Red coins can be duplicated to skip slower ones and bonus games can also be reliably skipped at the end of every level. This is by far the longest and toughest run in the game and it is advised that you do not run it unless you have mastered the basics first. It is certainly a fan favorite though with how crazy and flashy the run is. Hot take on Any% vs. 100% speedrunners. Red coin despawn quirk to be aware of.

Leaderboard: https://www.speedrun.com/yi?h=100-snes&x=9d8gzlkn-yn2jx2e8.gq7pnvdq

Timing: Start: On new file select. End: When the last completed level card flips over. Note: When the run is completed, a score check of all the worlds is usually done to confirm that all the levels have a score of "100", though it is not required.

Required: A score of 100 on all levels (including Extras).

Bans: 1-1 Warps Tongue Glitch Null Egg Arbitrary Code Execution The Japanese community also bans resetting the console, except after beating Bowser.

Useful Pages: Red Coin Duplication Bonus Skips