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Icterus: /* 5-4 Skip File: 5-4skip4.png */

2024-05-23T04:08:57Z

5-4 Skip File: 5-4skip4.png

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	{{#ev:youtube\|3CnmRBnr1gI\|250x170\|right\|'''5-4 Any% Full Skip vs. Platform\|frame}}		{{#ev:youtube\|3CnmRBnr1gI\|250x170\|right\|'''5-4 Any% Full Skip vs. Platform\|frame}}
	{{#ev:youtube\|r3ELCOBGafU\|250x170\|right\|'''5-4 Half Skip\|frame}}		{{#ev:youtube\|r3ELCOBGafU\|250x170\|right\|'''5-4 Half Skip\|frame}}
			{{#ev:youtube\|uXnmaSMWEMk\|250x170\|right\|'''100% 5-4 Skip Tutorial\|frame}}

Icterus: /* 5-4 Skip File: 5-4skip4.png */

2023-02-14T03:30:54Z

5-4 Skip File: 5-4skip4.png

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	Getting the bats to come down low enough for you to bounce on requires lining up your flutters in a particular way. Here is an [https://imgur.com/a/UdwUQ image gallery] that shows how to do it consistently. <br/>		Getting the bats to come down low enough for you to bounce on requires lining up your flutters in a particular way. Here is an [https://imgur.com/a/UdwUQ image gallery] that shows how to do it consistently. <br/>
	Backup strat if the first bat does its circle early: [https://www.twitch.tv/videos/317799140] <br/>		Backup strat if the first bat does its circle early: [https://www.twitch.tv/videos/317799140] <br/> Note that this is actually 1-2 seconds faster than the standard strat but it is a bit risky.
	Optimization for the start of the skip: [https://youtu.be/eb3NR9uY1aI]		Optimization for the start of the skip: [https://youtu.be/eb3NR9uY1aI]
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Icterus at 03:28, 14 February 2023

2023-02-14T03:28:35Z

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	==Sustained Fluttering==		==Sustained Fluttering==
	{{#ev:youtube\|~~XP2Sxh82sMw~~\|250x170\|right\|'''6-4 Lava skip \|frame}}		{{#ev:youtube\|OiOUKrAizpA\|250x170\|right\|'''6-4 Lava skip \|frame}}
	{{#ev:youtube\|KOiRNhk_l4U\|250x170\|right\|'''Optimized Lava Skip\|frame}}		{{#ev:youtube\|KOiRNhk_l4U\|250x170\|right\|'''Optimized Lava Skip\|frame}}
	Flutters can be chained together indefinitely so that Yoshi does not lose height. This is only used when needed such as the [https://youtu.be/MUYwwBLRSQg?t=34s water section] in [[3-4_Any%25\|3-4]], the [https://youtu.be/LBjPnYz26m0?t=1m25s platform skip] in [[5-4_Any%25\|5-4]] or the [https://youtu.be/4ZW8iCoN1qA?t=1m36s lava skip] in [[6-4_Any%25\|6-4]]. Since fluttering is slower than running at full speed, you only want to flutter when it's necessary. You have a 9 frame window to maintain height but you also need to release and repress B within 1 frame to maintain height.		Flutters can be chained together indefinitely so that Yoshi does not lose height. This is only used when needed such as the [https://youtu.be/MUYwwBLRSQg?t=34s water section] in [[3-4_Any%25\|3-4]], the [https://youtu.be/LBjPnYz26m0?t=1m25s platform skip] in [[5-4_Any%25\|5-4]] or the [https://youtu.be/4ZW8iCoN1qA?t=1m36s lava skip] in [[6-4_Any%25\|6-4]]. Since fluttering is slower than running at full speed, you only want to flutter when it's necessary. You have a 9 frame window to maintain height but you also need to release and repress B within 1 frame to maintain height.
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	Lava skip saves about 3 seconds over riding the log. For some people, it's too risky to do, especially with late game nerves and how little time it saves. If you skipped both mid-rings up to this point, dying means you'll have to replay the entire level resulting in multiple minutes lost. Even if you get the mid-ring just before this room you'll still lose 20-40s depending on where you fall in the lava. <br/>		Lava skip saves about 3 seconds over riding the log. For some people, it's too risky to do, especially with late game nerves and how little time it saves. If you skipped both mid-rings up to this point, dying means you'll have to replay the entire level resulting in multiple minutes lost. Even if you get the mid-ring just before this room you'll still lose 20-40s depending on where you fall in the lava. <br/>

	Doing multiple flutters over a long distance and maintaining height takes a lot of practice, but you know the saying, practice makes perfect! [[File:Flutter.gif]] <br/>		Doing multiple flutters over a long distance and maintaining height takes a lot of practice, but you know the saying, practice makes perfect! [[File:Flutter.gif]]
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	===5-4 Skip [[File: 5-4skip4.png]]===		===5-4 Skip [[File: 5-4skip4.png]]===
	{{#ev:youtube\|YEImW1ndWdI\|250x170\|right\|'''Full Skip without Shy Guy\|frame}}		{{#ev:youtube\|YEImW1ndWdI\|250x170\|right\|'''Full Skip without Shy Guy\|frame}}
	{{#ev:youtube\|3CnmRBnr1gI\|250x170\|right\|'''5-4 Any% Full Skip vs. Platform\|frame}}		{{#ev:youtube\|3CnmRBnr1gI\|250x170\|right\|'''5-4 Any% Full Skip vs. Platform\|frame}}
			{{#ev:youtube\|r3ELCOBGafU\|250x170\|right\|'''5-4 Half Skip\|frame}}


	The notorious 5-4 skip is by far the hardest trick in the entire game, way harder than lava skip in fact. It can take upwards of 1000 attempts to even land it once, but the time it saves is huge, making it totally worth learning. Failing the skip results in losing around 25-70s depending on where you fall. The time lost is even greater in 100% due to collectibles (30-90s). <br/>		The notorious 5-4 skip is by far the hardest trick in the entire game, way harder than lava skip in fact. It can take upwards of 1000 attempts to even land it once, but the time it saves is huge, making it totally worth learning. Failing the skip results in losing around 25-70s depending on where you fall. The time lost is even greater in 100% due to collectibles (30-90s). <br/>
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	Full skip saves over 1 minute in 100% and half skip saves about 40s. <br />		Full skip saves over 1 minute in 100% and half skip saves about 40s. <br />

	''Here is an [https://imgur.com/a/UdwUQ image gallery] that shows how to do ~~5-4 skip~~. <br/>		Some runners find using the shy guy (shown in the comparison video to the right) easier, but it loses about 7 seconds compared to just using the bats. Although it requires more total flutters, the hardest part of 5-4 skip for many people is the first long stretch of flutters, and going up to the shy guy platform allows you to end this stretch of flutters a bit earlier.

			Getting the bats to come down low enough for you to bounce on requires lining up your flutters in a particular way. Here is an [https://imgur.com/a/UdwUQ image gallery] that shows how to do it consistently. <br/>
	Backup strat if the first bat does its circle early: [https://www.twitch.tv/videos/317799140] <br/>		Backup strat if the first bat does its circle early: [https://www.twitch.tv/videos/317799140] <br/>
			Optimization for the start of the skip: [https://youtu.be/eb3NR9uY1aI]
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	==Fluttering Frame Data==		==Fluttering Frame Data==

Icterus: /* Sustained Fluttering */

2023-02-14T02:47:38Z

Sustained Fluttering

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	Lava skip saves about 3 seconds over riding the log. For some people, it's too risky to do, especially with late game nerves and how little time it saves. If you skipped both mid-rings up to this point, dying means you'll have to replay the entire level resulting in multiple minutes lost. Even if you get the mid-ring just before this room you'll still lose 20-40s depending on where you fall in the lava. <br/>		Lava skip saves about 3 seconds over riding the log. For some people, it's too risky to do, especially with late game nerves and how little time it saves. If you skipped both mid-rings up to this point, dying means you'll have to replay the entire level resulting in multiple minutes lost. Even if you get the mid-ring just before this room you'll still lose 20-40s depending on where you fall in the lava. <br/>

	Doing multiple flutters over a long distance and maintaining height takes a lot of practice, but you know the saying, practice makes perfect! [[File:Flutter.gif]]		Doing multiple flutters over a long distance and maintaining height takes a lot of practice, but you know the saying, practice makes perfect! [[File:Flutter.gif]] <br/>

	===5-4 Skip [[File: 5-4skip4.png]]===		===5-4 Skip [[File: 5-4skip4.png]]===
			{{#ev:youtube\|YEImW1ndWdI\|250x170\|right\|'''Full Skip without Shy Guy\|frame}}
	{{#ev:youtube\|3CnmRBnr1gI\|250x170\|right\|'''5-4 Any% Full Skip vs. Platform\|frame}}		{{#ev:youtube\|3CnmRBnr1gI\|250x170\|right\|'''5-4 Any% Full Skip vs. Platform\|frame}}

	The notorious 5-4 skip is by far the hardest trick in the entire game, way harder than lava skip in fact. It can take upwards of 1000 attempts to even land it once, but the time it saves is huge, making it totally worth learning. Failing the skip results in losing around 25-70s depending on where you fall. The time lost is even greater in 100% due to collectibles (30-90s). <br/>		The notorious 5-4 skip is by far the hardest trick in the entire game, way harder than lava skip in fact. It can take upwards of 1000 attempts to even land it once, but the time it saves is huge, making it totally worth learning. Failing the skip results in losing around 25-70s depending on where you fall. The time lost is even greater in 100% due to collectibles (30-90s). <br/>

Brooklyn9d5: /* Fluttering Frame Data */

2022-09-11T04:45:09Z

Fluttering Frame Data

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	* It's better to aim for the middle of the working frames because 2 frame repress reflutters wont lose as much height.		* It's better to aim for the middle of the working frames because 2 frame repress reflutters wont lose as much height.
	* DROP means that no reflutter will be initiated.		* DROP means that no reflutter will be initiated.

			===Extended Flutter===
			[[File: Extended_flutter_chart.png\|\|\|1000px\|Extended Flutter]]

Icterus: /* Any% Time Save: */

2021-07-24T01:28:10Z

Any% Time Save:

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	''Here is an [https://imgur.com/a/UdwUQ image gallery] that shows how to do 5-4 skip. <br/>		''Here is an [https://imgur.com/a/UdwUQ image gallery] that shows how to do 5-4 skip. <br/>
	Backup strat if the first bat does ~~it's~~ circle early: [https://www.twitch.tv/videos/317799140] <br/>		Backup strat if the first bat does its circle early: [https://www.twitch.tv/videos/317799140] <br/>

	==Fluttering Frame Data==		==Fluttering Frame Data==

Brooklyn9d5: /* Sustained Fluttering */

2019-08-24T21:10:06Z

Sustained Fluttering

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	{{#ev:youtube\|XP2Sxh82sMw\|250x170\|right\|'''6-4 Lava skip \|frame}}		{{#ev:youtube\|XP2Sxh82sMw\|250x170\|right\|'''6-4 Lava skip \|frame}}
	{{#ev:youtube\|KOiRNhk_l4U\|250x170\|right\|'''Optimized Lava Skip\|frame}}		{{#ev:youtube\|KOiRNhk_l4U\|250x170\|right\|'''Optimized Lava Skip\|frame}}
	Flutters can be chained together indefinitely so that Yoshi does not lose height. This is only used when needed such as the [https://youtu.be/MUYwwBLRSQg?t=34s water section] in [[3-4_Any%25\|3-4]], the [https://youtu.be/LBjPnYz26m0?t=1m25s platform skip] in [[5-4_Any%25\|5-4]] or the [https://youtu.be/4ZW8iCoN1qA?t=1m36s lava skip] in [[6-4_Any%25\|6-4]]. Since fluttering is slower than running at full speed, you only want to flutter when it's necessary. You have a 9 frame window to maintain height but you also need to release and repress B ~~as quickly as you can~~ to maintain ~~the most~~ height.		Flutters can be chained together indefinitely so that Yoshi does not lose height. This is only used when needed such as the [https://youtu.be/MUYwwBLRSQg?t=34s water section] in [[3-4_Any%25\|3-4]], the [https://youtu.be/LBjPnYz26m0?t=1m25s platform skip] in [[5-4_Any%25\|5-4]] or the [https://youtu.be/4ZW8iCoN1qA?t=1m36s lava skip] in [[6-4_Any%25\|6-4]]. Since fluttering is slower than running at full speed, you only want to flutter when it's necessary. You have a 9 frame window to maintain height but you also need to release and repress B within 1 frame to maintain height.

	===Lava Skip [[File: lavaskip4.png]]===		===Lava Skip [[File: lavaskip4.png]]===

Brooklyn9d5 at 21:13, 28 July 2019

2019-07-28T21:13:13Z

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	__FORCETOC__		__FORCETOC__

	~~==How To Flutter==~~
	*Tutorial (to do)

	==Perfect Flutter==		==Perfect Flutter==
	[[File: Perfectflutter.gif\|right\|thumb\|250px\|'''Perfect Flutter]]		[[File: Perfectflutter.gif\|right\|thumb\|250px\|'''Perfect Flutter]]

Brooklyn9d5: /* Sustained Fluttering */

2019-07-28T20:16:49Z

Sustained Fluttering

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	==Sustained Fluttering==		==Sustained Fluttering==
	{{#ev:youtube\|XP2Sxh82sMw\|~~250x160~~\|right\|'''6-4 Lava skip \|frame}}		{{#ev:youtube\|XP2Sxh82sMw\|250x170\|right\|'''6-4 Lava skip \|frame}}
	{{#ev:youtube\|KOiRNhk_l4U\|~~250x160~~\|right\|'''Optimized Lava Skip\|frame}}		{{#ev:youtube\|KOiRNhk_l4U\|250x170\|right\|'''Optimized Lava Skip\|frame}}
	Flutters can be chained together indefinitely so that Yoshi does not lose height. This is only used when needed such as the [https://youtu.be/MUYwwBLRSQg?t=34s water section] in [[3-4_Any%25\|3-4]], the [https://youtu.be/LBjPnYz26m0?t=1m25s platform skip] in [[5-4_Any%25\|5-4]] or the [https://youtu.be/4ZW8iCoN1qA?t=1m36s lava skip] in [[6-4_Any%25\|6-4]]. Since fluttering is slower than running at full speed, you only want to flutter when it's necessary. You have a 9 frame window to maintain height but you also need to release and repress B as quickly as you can to maintain the most height.		Flutters can be chained together indefinitely so that Yoshi does not lose height. This is only used when needed such as the [https://youtu.be/MUYwwBLRSQg?t=34s water section] in [[3-4_Any%25\|3-4]], the [https://youtu.be/LBjPnYz26m0?t=1m25s platform skip] in [[5-4_Any%25\|5-4]] or the [https://youtu.be/4ZW8iCoN1qA?t=1m36s lava skip] in [[6-4_Any%25\|6-4]]. Since fluttering is slower than running at full speed, you only want to flutter when it's necessary. You have a 9 frame window to maintain height but you also need to release and repress B as quickly as you can to maintain the most height.

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	===5-4 Skip [[File: 5-4skip4.png]]===		===5-4 Skip [[File: 5-4skip4.png]]===
	{{#ev:youtube\|3CnmRBnr1gI\|~~250x160~~\|right\|'''5-4 Any% Full Skip vs. Platform\|frame}}		{{#ev:youtube\|3CnmRBnr1gI\|250x170\|right\|'''5-4 Any% Full Skip vs. Platform\|frame}}
	The notorious 5-4 skip is by far the hardest trick in the entire game, way harder than lava skip in fact. It can take upwards of 1000 attempts to even land it once, but the time it saves is huge, making it totally worth learning. Failing the skip results in losing around 25-70s depending on where you fall. The time lost is even greater in 100% due to collectibles (30-90s). <br/>		The notorious 5-4 skip is by far the hardest trick in the entire game, way harder than lava skip in fact. It can take upwards of 1000 attempts to even land it once, but the time it saves is huge, making it totally worth learning. Failing the skip results in losing around 25-70s depending on where you fall. The time lost is even greater in 100% due to collectibles (30-90s). <br/>

Brooklyn9d5: /* Sustained Fluttering */

2019-07-28T20:16:28Z

Sustained Fluttering

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	===5-4 Skip [[File: 5-4skip4.png]]===		===5-4 Skip [[File: 5-4skip4.png]]===
			{{#ev:youtube\|3CnmRBnr1gI\|250x160\|right\|'''5-4 Any% Full Skip vs. Platform\|frame}}
	The notorious 5-4 skip is by far the hardest trick in the entire game, way harder than lava skip in fact. It can take upwards of 1000 attempts to even land it once, but the time it saves is huge, making it totally worth learning. Failing the skip results in losing around 25-70s depending on where you fall. The time lost is even greater in 100% due to collectibles (30-90s). <br/>		The notorious 5-4 skip is by far the hardest trick in the entire game, way harder than lava skip in fact. It can take upwards of 1000 attempts to even land it once, but the time it saves is huge, making it totally worth learning. Failing the skip results in losing around 25-70s depending on where you fall. The time lost is even greater in 100% due to collectibles (30-90s). <br/>

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	====Any% Time Save:====		====Any% Time Save:====
	~~{{#ev:youtube\|3CnmRBnr1gI\|250x160\|right\|'''5-4 Any% Full Skip vs. Platform\|frame}}~~
	- No skip (using platform): 2:27 <br />		- No skip (using platform): 2:27 <br />
	- Half skip (w/ shy guy): 1:31 (-56s) <br />		- Half skip (w/ shy guy): 1:31 (-56s) <br />

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	{{#ev:youtube\|3CnmRBnr1gI\|250x170\|right\|'''5-4 Any% Full Skip vs. Platform\|frame}}		{{#ev:youtube\|3CnmRBnr1gI\|250x170\|right\|'''5-4 Any% Full Skip vs. Platform\|frame}}
	{{#ev:youtube\|r3ELCOBGafU\|250x170\|right\|'''5-4 Half Skip\|frame}}		{{#ev:youtube\|r3ELCOBGafU\|250x170\|right\|'''5-4 Half Skip\|frame}}
			{{#ev:youtube\|uXnmaSMWEMk\|250x170\|right\|'''100% 5-4 Skip Tutorial\|frame}}