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Arnethegreat: added time save

2026-05-14T15:27:39Z

added time save

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	You can do the above strategy in a faster way but it requires the two '''lowest''' angles (2-frame window) with a 9-frame throw window (throw between the two first windows)		You can do the above strategy in a faster way but it requires the two '''lowest''' angles (2-frame window) with a 9-frame throw window (throw between the two first windows)

			This saves ~15 frames over the jumping neutral shot

	[https://i.imgur.com/SDITU6s.gif Fast Angle 1]		[https://i.imgur.com/SDITU6s.gif Fast Angle 1]
	[https://i.imgur.com/GzUesa5.gif Fast Angle 2]		[https://i.imgur.com/GzUesa5.gif Fast Angle 2]

	TODO: ~~Add time save and~~ exact frame timings		TODO: exact frame timings

	==Bowser fight==		==Bowser fight==

Arnethegreat: /* Fast Locked Cursor Strategy */

2026-05-14T15:23:27Z

Fast Locked Cursor Strategy

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	[https://i.imgur.com/SDITU6s.gif Fast Angle 1]		[https://i.imgur.com/SDITU6s.gif Fast Angle 1]
	[https://i.imgur.com/GzUesa5.gif Fast Angle 2]		[https://i.imgur.com/GzUesa5.gif Fast Angle 2]

			TODO: Add time save and exact frame timings

	==Bowser fight==		==Bowser fight==

Arnethegreat: rewrote a bit of beginning

2026-05-14T15:22:55Z

rewrote a bit of beginning

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	=== Door 4 Strategies ===		=== Door 4 Strategies ===
	Getting Door 4 consistently is the most important 'tech' in this level when you are starting out. Eventually you will get it ~~everytime~~ and focus on getting good bowser fights.		Getting Door 4 consistently is the most important 'tech' in this level when you are starting out. Eventually you will get it every time and focus on getting good bowser fights.

			There are several ways of doing the shot. The Jumping Neutral presented here is faster than running neutral, which is also harder to mess up once its learned. It's a little bit harder to learn though, since the other Version requires nothing but a single timed shot at a certain spot.

	~~There are several ways of doing~~ the ~~shot. This version presented here is~~ the ~~faster one, which is also harder to mess up once its learned~~. It~~'s a little bit harder~~ to ~~learn though, since~~ the ~~other Version requires nothing but a single timed shot at a certain spot~~.		The fastest strat is the fast locked cursor strategy while the regular locked cursor has the largest timing windows.

			It is recommended to try the different strats and see what works best for you.

	==== Jumping Neutral ====		==== Jumping Neutral ====

Arnethegreat: Added Locked Cursor strategy

2026-05-14T15:18:09Z

Added Locked Cursor strategy

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	==== Running Neutral ====		==== Running Neutral ====
	The other strat is to run full speed right as soon as you enter the door and press A for a neutral egg at the right side of the 2nd window. You want to throw when Yoshi's body is underneath the line, not his head. The egg will miss door 4 if you throw too soon, and you'll mostly end up with door 3.		The other strat is to run full speed right as soon as you enter the door and press A for a neutral egg at the right side of the 2nd window. You want to throw when Yoshi's body is underneath the line, not his head. The egg will miss door 4 if you throw too soon, and you'll mostly end up with door 3.
			This strategy has an 8 frame window
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			[[File:6-8_Door_4_lineup.png]]

			==== Locked Cursor Strategy ====

			Another strategy, that has a larger frame window, is locking your cursor and throwing the egg right before the last window.
			[https://imgur.com/a/release-on-this-frame-adjust-input-lag-y85spZz See Timing Reference for all angles]
			This is a 10-frame locking window into a 9-19 frame window with most being 12-15.

			So while the frame windows are larger, it requires two actions but the cursor can be tried over again or even setup at start if you want to take it easier. If going full speed and you miss the cursor you can still do other strats as a backup.

			[https://i.imgur.com/EsmLjpQ.gif Demonstration]

			==== Fast Locked Cursor Strategy ====

	[[~~File~~:~~6-8_Door_4_lineup~~.~~png]~~]		You can do the above strategy in a faster way but it requires the two '''lowest''' angles (2-frame window) with a 9-frame throw window (throw between the two first windows)

			[https://i.imgur.com/SDITU6s.gif Fast Angle 1]
			[https://i.imgur.com/GzUesa5.gif Fast Angle 2]

	==Bowser fight==		==Bowser fight==

Arnethegreat: reuploaded gif as it was playing too fast

2026-05-14T15:00:43Z

reuploaded gif as it was playing too fast

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	\| [[File:Neutralshot-strat.gif\|thumb\|~~Running~~ Neutral Shot]] \|\| [[File:Neutralshot-allframes.gif\|thumb\|Press A on these 8 Frames]]		\|
			[[File:Neutralshot-strat-2.gif\|thumb\|Neutral Shot Strategy]]
			\|\| [[File:Neutralshot-allframes.gif\|thumb\|Press A on these 8 Frames]]
	\|}		\|}

Arnethegreat: Headers and gif showing timings

2026-05-14T11:27:10Z

Headers and gif showing timings

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	== Warpless ==		== Warpless ==
	{{#ev:youtube\|GQgNO0_I7U8\|360x240\|right\|ANY% WR: https://youtu.be/GQgNO0_I7U8\|frame}}		{{#ev:youtube\|GQgNO0_I7U8\|360x240\|right\|ANY% WR: https://youtu.be/GQgNO0_I7U8\|frame}}


			=== Door 4 Strategies ===
	Getting Door 4 consistently is the most important 'tech' in this level when you are starting out. Eventually you will get it everytime and focus on getting good bowser fights.		Getting Door 4 consistently is the most important 'tech' in this level when you are starting out. Eventually you will get it everytime and focus on getting good bowser fights.


	There are ~~two common~~ ways of doing the shot. ~~The~~ version presented here is the faster one, which is also harder to mess up once its learned. It's a little bit harder to learn though, since the other Version requires nothing but a single timed shot at a certain spot.		There are several ways of doing the shot. This version presented here is the faster one, which is also harder to mess up once its learned. It's a little bit harder to learn though, since the other Version requires nothing but a single timed shot at a certain spot.

			==== Jumping Neutral ====
	[[File:Betterdoor4shot.png]]		[[File:Betterdoor4shot.png]]

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	The green line roughly represents the path Yoshi will take.		The green line roughly represents the path Yoshi will take.

	The other strat is to run full speed right as soon as you enter the door and press A for a neutral egg at the right side of the 2nd window. You want to throw when Yoshi's body is underneath the line, not his head. The egg will miss door 4 if you throw too soon, and you'll mostly end up with door 3. ~~<br/>~~		==== Running Neutral ====
			The other strat is to run full speed right as soon as you enter the door and press A for a neutral egg at the right side of the 2nd window. You want to throw when Yoshi's body is underneath the line, not his head. The egg will miss door 4 if you throw too soon, and you'll mostly end up with door 3.
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			\| [[File:Neutralshot-strat.gif\|thumb\|Running Neutral Shot]] \|\| [[File:Neutralshot-allframes.gif\|thumb\|Press A on these 8 Frames]]
			\|}



	~~Swag shot: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebK3To6zJLs]~~

	[[File:6-8_Door_4_lineup.png]]		[[File:6-8_Door_4_lineup.png]]

Arnethegreat: Added cursor reference

2026-05-14T08:22:01Z

Added cursor reference

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	The delayed method is around 7-8 seconds faster than the consistent method and ~2 sec. faster than throwing ASAP.		The delayed method is around 7-8 seconds faster than the consistent method and ~2 sec. faster than throwing ASAP.
			====Locked Shot Reference====
			[https://imgur.com/a/J6yd24t Locked Cursor Reference (Does not take in account Bowsers movement)]

	====Adjusting Locked Shots====		====Adjusting Locked Shots====

Arnethegreat: bigger header..

2026-05-14T07:58:13Z

bigger header..

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	[[File:6-8_Door_4_lineup.png]]		[[File:6-8_Door_4_lineup.png]]

	===Bowser fight===		==Bowser fight==

	*Bowser takes 7 shots to be beaten.		*Bowser takes 7 shots to be beaten.

Arnethegreat: put gifs in a table

2026-05-14T07:57:42Z

put gifs in a table

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	* Throwing during a fall (moving downwards) equals one gradient BELOW of cursor placement		* Throwing during a fall (moving downwards) equals one gradient BELOW of cursor placement

	[[File:Bowser-fight-falling-shot.gif\|thumb\|Throw your egg slightly after peak of jump]]		{\|
			\|+ Examples of shots that would've missed if not adjusted
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			\| [[File:Bowser-fight-falling-shot.gif\|thumb\|Throw your egg slightly after peak of jump]] \|\| [[File:Bowser-fight-jumping-shot.gif\|thumb\|Throw egg at same time of jumping]]

	~~[[File:Bowser-fight-jumping-shot.gif~~\|~~thumb\|Throw egg at same time of jumping]]~~		\|}

Arnethegreat: /* Bowser fight */

2026-05-14T07:55:09Z

Bowser fight

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	[[File:6-8_Door_4_lineup.png]]		[[File:6-8_Door_4_lineup.png]]

	====Bowser fight====		===Bowser fight===

	*Bowser takes 7 shots to be beaten.		*Bowser takes 7 shots to be beaten.
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	The delayed method is around 7-8 seconds faster than the consistent method and ~2 sec. faster than throwing ASAP.		The delayed method is around 7-8 seconds faster than the consistent method and ~2 sec. faster than throwing ASAP.

			====Adjusting Locked Shots====

			Just as with normal eggs, throwing while jumping, or falling, results in your egg shot trajectory being altered. This can be used to adjust your shots if you locked your cursor slightly wrong.
			This will vary slightly but as a general rule:
			* Throwing during a jump (moving upwards) equals one gradient ABOVE of cursor placement
			* Throwing during a fall (moving downwards) equals one gradient BELOW of cursor placement

			[[File:Bowser-fight-falling-shot.gif\|thumb\|Throw your egg slightly after peak of jump]]

			[[File:Bowser-fight-jumping-shot.gif\|thumb\|Throw egg at same time of jumping]]